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The biggest drawback to not having Google Analytics on your website is if you choose to run Google Ads for your site and you have to retarget/remarket on Google properties. Without Google Analytics you are out of luck as you can enable remarketing only in Google Analytics (and you would need Analytics linked to Google Ads). If you have a personal website or a business that grows organically without needing to use Advertising then you can go ahead with any analytics provider of your choice. But the value add provided by using Google Analytics far outweighs other negatives from a business point of view.


That's incorrect. Google ads have conversion tags you can do remarketing with, no need for Google Analytics.


You are right. I stand corrected. I always used Google Analytics for remarketing audiences because you can use any existing Google Analytics data to build audiences. You can't do the same with Google Ads remarketing tag according to the comparison table here: https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/2611268?hl=en

As a marketer you would want as much data as possible available for remarketing. The wider your audience the better your conversion rate. Without Google Analytics you will be remarketing only to the remarketing list created in Google Ads but not any and every audience that is being tracked by your Analytics property.


don't run google ads either


But what are the alternatives for websites with a small audience? not many choices out there.


That is not an option if you are a profit driven enterprise. There is no alternative that is as good/optimized as Google Ads is. You are literally bidding on search intent.


I find that for information search intent is a poor pre-qualifier for sales leads.


Evidence says otherwise. Hard data shows that conversions happen the most through these advertising networks. Can't deny the obvious. Unless you want us all to go back to the pre-Internet era where we cold called clients and vendors with a hope of getting leads. We have technology for a reason. Not all tech is bad. Not all advertising is bad either. It is the intent that matters.


Perhaps I wasn't clear.

Information search. The last time you looked up how to do something, for example, you bought a product off of a Google ad?

What do you define as a "conversion?" I specifically said "sales." People in the ad biz want to define "conversion" as something else- but those of us paying for the ads want to make a sale. If somebody (or a bot) who has no intention of buying clicks on the ad it's a mistake for both of us. Yet with Google anyway, any attempt I make to keep people from mis-clicking (by putting a price in the ad, for example, to indicate up front that if you're looking for free this is not your link) earns me a penalty by reducing something deceptively labeled as my "quality score."

I would love to see the numbers you are referring to, though. Maybe something would occur to me to help me see how to navigate the mess.


What would you recommend is better than someone literally searching for something you could provide?


Oh, that's too easy: Something that indicates the person is willing to make a purchase. My guess is you do searched all day long, and if you saw ads (you probably block them) you wouldn't buy much.

Where do you go when you want to buy something? Google? Probably not. That's why Amazon is dominating. Google can be used for branding, I'm told, and that's important- but requires a different mindset.




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