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"Technically only the last survivor coming out could answer that question"

And last survivor witnessed exactly this - quick evacuation without any issues with the luggage.

"people value belongings wrongly in case of serious accidents"

this catastrophe shows exactly opposite.



Could you link to a source for that claim?



that article says survivor waited and asked his wife to wait instead of rushing to the exit because expected crowd near the exit.

He also said he waited until exit will be freed from others "Я уже не могу сказать, сколько мы ждали, пока проход освободится".


не пизди, не просил он жену ждать. Про жену он пишет только "толкнул вперёд". Про "сколько мы ждали" он говорит лишь "время относительно, не могу точно оценить. Но я не могу сказать, что что-то тормозило эвакуацию".


No

Мы с женой оставались на местах после удара — она пыталась встать и побежать, но я сказал сесть, потому что ждал, что из-за паники в проходе начнется давка.


Мало ли, кто чего ждал. Важно, что случилось по факту.


exact citation from the article where he said what I described above: "она пыталась встать и побежать, но я сказал сесть, потому что ждал, что из-за паники в проходе начнется давка."


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I don't want to! But we can't have people posting like that here, so please don't. And unfortunately you have a history of posting in an aggressive style. I realize this is likely more cultural than intentional, but in a cross-cultural environment like HN is, that unfortunately doesn't help. The effects are just the same, and that is what we have to go by.

If you'd take a look at the site guidelines and recalibrate, we'd be grateful.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I didn't say panic started, but it clearly says that survival waited for some time before going to the exit, which almost costed him his life.


He waited because he decided to do this, nobody was stopping him. You are just trying to prove your point by lying, you are pathetic moron.


Article says he waited until exit be freed from others, citation has been provided above.


Well, it's hilarious how you are trying to quote parts of witnesses' words just to prove opinion, which is strictly opposite to what he actually told :) Nobody expect that other passengers would leave the plane instantly, so he waited few seconds but there were no issue with the people taking their luggage.

Even more funny that you are trying to do this today, when was official statement proving that witness is right: https://meduza.io/news/2019/05/11/tass-mnogie-iz-pogibshih-p...

https://www.rbc.ru/society/11/05/2019/5cd6ee9e9a7947eb8ad32f...


> how you are trying to quote parts of witnesses' words just to prove opinion, which is strictly opposite to what he actually told

Third time: I quoted exact person's words, where he said that he waited until exit will be freed.

> so he waited few seconds but there were no issue with the people taking their luggage.

there is nothing about few seconds in his words, and he couldn't see luggage problem because was 10 rows from business class rows.

I think you follow some strategy to flood discussion with low quality arguments with hope opponent will give up, so I give up, I will not respond you anymore.


> and he couldn't see luggage problem because was 10 rows from business class rows

And you were closer, of course, lol.

If _last_ survivor says there was no issue with luggage, there is no reason to think opposite. If he would be put at risk just because somebody's luggage, he would definitely speak out.

> there is nothing about few seconds in his words

1) Evacuation took 55 seconds. 2) Quote: "I can't say nothing about the luggage, I had no issue with it on my way" 3) Official statement says that rumors about luggage were just rumors and people who died had no time to even unlock their seatbelts, because died in a few seconds because of toxic smoke.

And yes, bye.




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