> Whether these things are happening or not is, again, not up for debate.
Of course it is. And when, in a few years, everything is fine, the sky hasn’t fallen, and in fact we’re doing better — you’ll just be shrieking about whatever the next thing is you’ve been told to be upset about.
> Those with developed brains under the cost of actions, and their lasting effects.
Is this the reddit-tier self-congratulatory slop that passes as an argument in your circles?
Well you ignored my entire argument, so me implying you're stupid worked out, didn't it?
To reiterate my argument, which you have reinforced: the question is NOT are these things happening, because they just are. So we won't debate it.
The question is what are the lasting effects. Which you actually alluded to right here:
"And when, in a few years, everything is fine, the sky hasn’t fallen, and in fact we’re doing better — you’ll just be shrieking"
See, so you DO understand that these things are happening. Where we disagree is the lasting effects, the implications.
You believe our president fucking the American people up the ass doesn't matter, or is secretly a good thing. As I've said, apathy, or naivity - the sight of a goal with no understanding of its cost or even it's gain.
I can become the richest person on Earth by killing everyone else. But what value did I create? None, I only destroyed value. That's the separation between a goal and it's cost and it's path.
You're probably thinking "well I know that, even a child understands that", but evidently you don't, or the cognitive dissonance is so strong you're willing to override everything you've ever known in pursuit of correctness.
Even if you're right, at what cost does it come? What will the world be worth when law no longer matters, when we have a monarch? Even if you like the monarch, will serfdom make you happy?
This is not me being melodramatic. As we've both already established, laws are being broken, and due process is being thrown out. A few broken eggs, no?
But it's not about the broken eggs and it never has been. Those are a canary. The broken eggs get useful idiots like yourself to advocate against your own best interests. To advocate that it's okay to break the rules, so long as you win. But what you're really saying when you say that is that you plan on winning forever. Very bold, no? Very naive, no?
Of course it is. And when, in a few years, everything is fine, the sky hasn’t fallen, and in fact we’re doing better — you’ll just be shrieking about whatever the next thing is you’ve been told to be upset about.
> Those with developed brains under the cost of actions, and their lasting effects.
Is this the reddit-tier self-congratulatory slop that passes as an argument in your circles?