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This. This sentence reached off the page and hit me in the face.

It only just then became obvious to me that to them it's a question of when, in large part because of the MS deal.

Their next big move in the chess game will be to "declare" AGI.



I think some of this is just the typical bluster of company press releases / earnings reports. Can't ever show weakness or the shareholders will leave. Can't ever show doubt or the stock price will drop.

Nevertheless, I've been wondering of late. How will we know when AGI is accomplished? In the books or movies, it's always been handwaved or described in a way that made it seem like it was obvious to all. For example, in The Matrix there's the line "We marveled at our own magnificence as we gave birth to AI." It was a very obvious event that nobody could question in that story. In reality though? I'm starting to think it's just going to be more of a gradual thing, like increasing the resolution of our TVs until you can't tell it's not a window any longer.


> How will we know when AGI is accomplished?

It's certainly not an specific thing that can be accomplished. AGI is a useful name for a badly defined concept, but any objective application of it (like in a contract) is just stupid things done by people that could barely be described as having the natural variety of GI.


"We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it." - Sam Altman, Jan 2025

'as we have traditionally understood it' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections#:~:text=We%20believe%...


This is phenomenally conceited on both companies’ parts. Wow.


Don't worry, I'm sure we can just keep handing out subprime mortgages like candy forever. Infinite growth, here we come!




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