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> No one is forced to be on social media.

Not yet, perhaps.

But try getting a job without a linkedin account.

Try getting fair prices without an email address. For that matter, try getting email without a large-block mail provider and without getting your email server blocked or spammed.

Try filing for unemployment without a SMS-capable phone or email address or signing away your rights to a non-government entity.



I’m sure you know that you can get a computer with a web browser that doesn’t run either Windows or MacOS and you can use Firefox? You can also get email from non BigTech providers.

And there are plenty of non smart phones that can receive text messages.


> I’m sure you know that you can get a computer with a web browser that doesn’t run either Windows or MacOS and you can use Firefox?

You wanna put some money where your mouth is?

In other Hacker News...

Linux troubles:

- [0.a] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42839502 "Facebook ban on discussing Linux"

- (bonus comment} [0.a.b] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42848523 "Linux users are extremists according to the NSA (http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extrem...)"

- [0.b] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4063236 "Microsoft Bans Linux/Android Dual-Booting on Windows 8 ARM Devices"

- [0.c] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19224887 "Apple Is Blocking Linux User-Agent on appleid.apple.com"

- [0.d] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36197401 "Tell HN: Cloudflare is locking out Linux users"

Firefox troubles:

- [1.a] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34952279 "Ask HN: Is your Firefox blocked by Cloudflare in recent weeks? (e.g., Gitlab)"

- [1.b] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31459258 "Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare"

- [1.c] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865 "Google.com search now refusing to search for FF esr 128 without JavaScript"

- [1.d] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29938521 "Reddit Blocks Firefox"

- [1.e] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33269391 "Firefox Private Mode blocked by T-Mobile"

I could go on, but I won't. Suffice to say that yes you are right you "can" get such a computer. But there are very strong indications that won't always be true, and even having such a computer does not guarantee that you can access the services that you require.

> And there are plenty of non smart phones that can receive text messages.

What you mean is that there are plenty of non-smart phones that enable receiving of massive amounts of spam indistinguishable from spearphishing, and you even pay for that privilege.

No. I do not accept the concept of being required to pay for that "service".




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