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Does that mean human intelligence is cheapened when you talk out a problem to yourself? Or when you write down steps solving a problem?

It's the exact same thing here.



The similarity is cosmetic only. The reason it is used is because it's easy to leverage existing work in LLMs, and scaling (although not cheap) is an obvious approach.


> Does that mean human intelligence is cheapened when you talk out a problem to yourself?

In a sense, maybe yeah. Of course if one were to really be absolute about that statement it would be absurd, it would greatly overfit the reality.

But it is interesting to assume this statement as true. Oftentimes when we think of ideas "off the top of our heads" they are not as profound as ideas that "come to us" in the shower. The subconscious may be doing 'more' 'computation' in a sense. Lakoff said the subconscious was 98% of the brain, and that the conscious mind is the tip of the iceberg of thought.


lol come on it’s not the exact same thing. At best this is like gagging yourself while you talk about it then engaging yourself when you say the answer. And that presupposing LLMs are thinking in, your words, exactly the same way as humans.

At best it maybe vaguely resembles thinking


> "lol come on"

I've never found this sort of argument convincing. it's very Chalmers.


Admittedly not my most articulate, my exasperation showed through. To some extent it seems warranted as it tends to be the most effective tactic against hyperbole. Still trying to find a better solution.




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