> But people with allergies don't disregard the labels, they buy a different product.
And sometimes you get people like me, who eat yoghurt without checking the ingredients because you shouldn't need to, only to then find out that for some crazy reason American food companies put beef gelatine into theirs.
For me vegetarian is a choice rather than mandatory, but if you rely on "common sense" people will die, and have died. It's happened with surprise nuts, despite that one being well known.
> And sometimes you get people like me, who eat yoghurt without checking the ingredients because you shouldn't need to, only to then find out that for some crazy reason American food companies put beef gelatine into theirs.
They made a product and told you what was in it. You're not required to read the ingredients first but you have the opportunity to. Are you proposing that we ban beef gelatin?
> if you rely on "common sense" people will die, and have died. It's happened with surprise nuts, despite that one being well known.
But what are you even suggesting here? That you can't make a product with nuts if someone might not expect it, even if you labeled it?
If you're in a cornfield next to a farm road that only sees one truck every six months, common sense says you're not at a busy intersection, but if you step into the road without looking and there is a truck, that's not the truck's fault. You can be cautious all the time or you can take a risk once in a while; it's your choice because it's your life.
It's also not clear how it applies to the topic. If you went to the store and asked for some MDMA and they gave you some MDMA, you are not going to be surprised that the contents is MDMA. That's not why it's banned.
I eat stuff with bones in it all the time, as do most humans. I was a vegetarian for years and the inclusion of gelatin in foods where it isn't immediately obvious was certainly annoying. As was the inclusion of non-vegetarian products in cheese, beer, and sugar. Doesn't change the fact that gelatin isn't generally considered a ghoulish or unusual ingredient -- little kids get served big bowls of it! If you have a special diet you need to read labels. That's what they're for.
There are many possible reasons for being vegetarian or vegan.
If the reasons are specifically ethical in nature (i.e. not limited to environmental or health reasons etc. but based on a concern for the possibility that animals have a rich inner experience and have the moral standing of humans), then it's definitely ghoulish for all the same reasons treating humans as livestock is ghoulish.
When I was a kid, I simply didn't think about it. I also simply didn't think about how some people ate species that I considered pets.
And sometimes you get people like me, who eat yoghurt without checking the ingredients because you shouldn't need to, only to then find out that for some crazy reason American food companies put beef gelatine into theirs.
For me vegetarian is a choice rather than mandatory, but if you rely on "common sense" people will die, and have died. It's happened with surprise nuts, despite that one being well known.