French food can be good, and the best French food is probably in France. But the 2nd best French food is surely in the USA...and the 2nd best Italian food...and the 2nd best Indian food...and the 2nd best Ethiopian food....you get the picture
French guy does not have a baguette to snack on. But I get it, I might be salty too if I lived in a country that was once a world power but is now a provincial backwater, and one of whose main remaining sources of pride is food (an extremely valid source of pride to be sure, much more so than haute couture for example)
I don’t know if that’s true. I currently live in Europe but lived most of my life in the US.
I’ve had amazing Italian and Indian food, and more authentic, in Amsterdam, than I ever had living in the US (lived in multiple cities and regions). Also incredible fresh Mediterranean food in Amsterdam and Switzerland, in addition to Mediterranean countries.
I’ve had delicious food in the US, but it was usually so good because of fat/salt content. When I have good food in different European countries, it’s more the freshness of the ingredients and preparation, as well as unique flavors. It’s rare to find food as fresh as I’ve gotten used to in Europe when I visit the US now.
I've been told by multiple Indians the best place to get Indian food is in London. Even compared to India itself in some ways it's better, as you can get food from all the different regions in one place.
Lifelong Indian here, London and Amsterdam had the best Indian food I've ever had outside of India. I've tried Indian restaurants across most large (and many small) cities in the US, in several countries in Europe, and obviously India. And then regularly eat/cook south Indian at home. To rank roughly:
Second best French would be in the UK, I’d say. Second best Indian food would depend on which regional cuisine but I’d say the UK or Malaysia would come before the US. Second best Turkish is probably Germany. Second best Thai and Greek is probably Australia. The US probably does have second best Italian though.
I think there's room for reasonable people to disagree about specific national cuisines. Where I don't think there's much room for disagreement is that if you looked at the rankings for all the world's national/major regional cuisines, the USA would have the lowest total by a healthy margin.
There's a saying in gourmet circles that a reliable way to find a good French restaurant in France is to look for one with a Japanese chef. So I wouldn't be surprised if the second best French were in Japan...
Hey since you want to throw slurs around, let's do it!
Lived in Melbourne for years and "Modern Australian" cuisine is frankly the joke, it's far less interesting than the cuisines of the American South and Southwest which are rooted in the local produce and native cooking traditions of the New World, whereas Aussies seem content to slap together their spotty understanding of a couple European cuisines and serve a pavlova for dessert. Anyone who's curious to try "modern Australian" need not bother, as they've already tried it without knowing it, there's nothing new or local.
I'm not Australian, but Southern American food is absolutely horrible, as someone who has lived there for decades (so more than your "years"). It's completely overrated, and the only thing arguably worse is the people who try to evangelize it.
I worked with an American from the south, "born and bred", as he wouldn't let us forget it. We were having a lunch conversation once where he was telling us about all the different cultural variations of southern food. Naturally, a co-worker and I were curious, so we were asking questions. We then went to talk about regional variations of our food (Chinese / Indian), and this was the American's response: "How many different ways can ya'll make dim sum and butter chicken?"
He seemed to not understand that regional variations actually exist outside of USA, and never backed out of his viewpoint that "only country in the world is the US that has cultural and regional variations of food".
Sure .. but where are your slurs, wtf is "Modern Australian cuisine", and does anyone give a toss about Melbourne (it was overflowing with pretentious hipsters long before Sydney)?
Anyway the real reason I replied was because I'm sick of seeing this slur 'seppo' online because it's basically like the N word but attacking all Americans instead of just some of them, and in five years down under no Australian ever dared to use it against me in person, it's just pussy keyboard warriors who break it out.
Agreed. I was mildly excited when you promised slurs, disappointed that you had none - insults are considered an artform here.
> and in five years down under no Australian ever dared to use it against me
It's regional, in some parts of Australia it's as common as "Yank", elsewhere you'll never hear it <shrug>.
> it's just pussy keyboard warriors who break it out.
Again, if you're going to throw slurs they actually have to have some bite that'll stick.
Still, no hard feelings, have an upvote for participation, and hopefully I catch any reply you make, it was only by chance I saw "the S-word" on newcomments and followed up on it.
It's a cartoon caricature of Australia dreamt up by American franchise operators, ergo "worst Australian food" .. not even remotely like Australian food.
Logically and linguistically it isn't equivilant at all.
Let's say hypothetically that the US has the best Mexican food - even better than Mexico itself, and that food is sold in Food Truk X that tours about in Dallas Texas.
Taco Bell still exists and (it seems that) you are open to the notion that Taco Bell is terrible terrible "Mexican Food".
Ergo, the US has both the best and the worst Mexican Food.
Outback Steakhouse is the worst "Australian Food".
French guy does not have a baguette to snack on. But I get it, I might be salty too if I lived in a country that was once a world power but is now a provincial backwater, and one of whose main remaining sources of pride is food (an extremely valid source of pride to be sure, much more so than haute couture for example)