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> Porsche seems to be the only vehicle manufacturer who doesnt believe in the electric car

i think you just completely made this up out of thin air because you hate sports cars. they're one of the first manufacturers to sell an electric sports car, and their work on performance hybrid drivetrains is probably the best in the industry.

they also race in formula E and are working on synthetic fuel replacements for their classic cars.



good. banning ICE by 2035 is insanely stupid.


Porsche sells fully electric Taycan.


It is a great EV too.


they're also innovating on synthetic fuel.


That’s the story the FDP is trying to sell - we should be „open“ on technology, because synthetic fuels will supposedly be just as environmentally friendly as EV cars. Never mind that well-to-wheel, they’d use 5x the energy of EVs and still have most of the other issues of ICE cars, like noise and local pollution (e.g. nox).

In reality, it’s about keeping fossil fuels and ICE cars around as long as possible.


> it’s about keeping fossil fuels and ICE cars around as long as possible

yeah, what tipped you off, the fact that they're trying to keep them fueled at great cost? i'm glad a real sherlock holmes like you is on the case.


The calls for an ICE ban don’t sound reasonable at all. It’s not the 1% of the population that are car enthusiasts that are causing climate change.


Let's talk about limits on private jet aviation before we even begin to talk about banning ICE vehicles for normal people.


No, it’s the whole automotive industry that needs to get out of fossil fuels, and is not able to maintain and evolve multiple drive technologies at once. But also, the e-fuel debate is a Backdoor to keep fossil fuels around much longer. Getting rid of ICE cars isn’t a matter of reasonableness, it’s a necessity.


As someone who lives along a very busy thoroughfare in San Francisco (where there are a lot of Porches & other supercars) I can say that they are the quietest of all the gas powered supercars.


While I myself am partial to noisy vibration generators, it should be noted that vintage Porsches are the most common form of classic car EV conversions.


I seriously considered the all electric Porsche Taycan as my next car before eventually relenting got a Tesla Model S Plaid. The Taycan was arguably higher quality and a funner drive though and I would have been very happy with it.




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