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> Thank God there weren't pedestrians there.

It would've still stopped - the FSD system doesn't override the background tasks that power the AEB systems that stop the car from hitting humans or cars.



> It would've still stopped

We don’t know that. An Tesla cannot claim it.


We also don't know the opposite but that sure as heck won't stop people claiming they know it as a fact and cause the publication of dozens of news articles over nothing.


It is the precautionary principle.


Except that time FSD drove right into a semi truck and killed the guy sleeping in his car...


You mean it would disable FSD when it would see that impact was inevitable so Tesla could claim that FSD had nothing to do with the accident.


> To ensure our statistics are conservative, we count any crash in which Autopilot was deactivated within 5 seconds before impact,

https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport


Would make sense with 30+ seconds depending on the level of the warning


30 seconds is a _very_ long time driving.


Imagine AI puts you into a separated oncoming traffic lane when visibility is extremely low (a few meters) and then disengages. It might take you quite a while to get out of such conundrum.


Standard autopilot doesn't do lane changes. Enhanced autopilot does, but requires the driver to acknowledge with the indicator stalk.

I know this was just an example scenario and your point is broader, but I'm struggling to think of another circumstance where autopilot is at fault 30 seconds post disengage, as it's effectively just a fancy adaptive cruise control.


How does this work on intersections? E.g. if you have to turn, because straight ahead is wrong way sign for a one way road.


Autopilot steers with the lane you're in. If it's unsure at the intersection, it will force the driver to retake control.

I've never been at an intersection where straight ahead is a wrong way (wouldn't the traffic be then facing you?), but like any cruise control system, it would likely require driver attention.

Autopilot is not intended to be enable and go to sleep. It's simply fancy cruise control.


Citation needed.

Unless you are referring to these [0] incidents from 2016, before FSD was released. That was Tesla Autopilot (which comes standard on all Tesla vehicles now).

Also, FSD uses active camera monitoring to make sure the driver is paying attention, so no you can't sleep in your while FSD is activated.

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/teslas-latest-autopilot-death-lo...


What is the difference between Autopilot and Enhanced Autopilot?


AEB cannot magically instantaneously stop a car that FSD has put into the wrong lane. If you believe otherwise, please do not drive. Cars are dangerous in the hands of those who do not take risks seriously.


> It would've still stopped

Would it have though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mnG_Gbxf_w

At this point I can't imagine buying anything Tesla related. Or anything related to Elon Musk for that matter. He's a grifter who has managed to stand on the shoulders of giants and call himself tall.




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