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>What's the practical benefit of this? Metro North already runs into Grand Central

Yeah, but it does so by coming down the very west edge of the Bronx; through Woodlawn and Fordham. This new route comes much further east through Co-op City and Hunts Point with four new stations planned. It'll be a lot quicker to get into the city (particularly to the west side) from the East Bronx now.



If you live in the east part the Bronx, wouldn't you just take the 4/5/6? I don't see the value of paying Metro North rides, then subway rides. And even if you decide to take the Metro North, it's going thru Queens, I think it'll add more time then 4/5/6.


Say you live in Coop City. Even getting to Gun Hill Road on the 5 is going to take you ten minutes on the bus. If you want to get to the west side of Manhattan, you're going to take the 5 to 149 St/Grand Concourse and change to the 2. To get to e.g. Times Square it's going to take over an hour assuming perfect timings.

I haven't seen proposed timings for the East Bronx stations into Penn but Fordham to Grand Central is only like 20 minutes. The railroads are much faster than the subway because of less stop-and-go due to fewer stations plus greater top speed.


Take the 5 to GC and transfer for the shuttle to TS. Fastest way on rail is by going in a straight lines. Anytime the train has to turn, it slows down to a crawl.

I'm 100% for transit projects, I just don't see a lot of folks in the bronx would take advantage of it. Commuter from new haven lines and CT are probably the most likely customers. It would be better if the new line connects to Harlem Line as well.


You're not hearing me. Taking the 5 to GC is slower. It takes 45 minutes (according to the timetable) to ride the 5 from Gun Hill Road to Grand Central for what is effectively an 11 mile route.

The subway is just slow. The fastest way on rail is by not stopping ten times (with accompanying dwell times on platforms as well accelerating/stopping) and not running on speed-restricted track.




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