England has been captured by far-right think-tanks, dressed up in nice suits and dresses. There are pockets of resistence within the ruling party, but that doesn't change the last 10 years of madness.
If you are unaware of this, your personal Overton window is all over the place. I'd get that checked out at the local mechanics.
The Brexit isolationism thing? The immigration policy and the way they deal with refugees crossing the Channel? The Rwanda thing? I mean, it’s really not that difficult.
The only reason that seems far right to you is that the Overton window has radically shifted. Not being beholden to the EU and controlling your borders was perfectly normal 30 years ago.
Hell, the whole “not letting anyone in just because they claim to be a refugee” aspect was normal in Europe…10 years ago?
> The only reason that seems far right to you is that the Overton window has radically shifted.
You mean rightwards, right? Otherwise we don’t live in the same reality. Even Labour is tame compared to what it was 30 years ago.
> Not being beholden to the EU and controlling your borders was perfectly normal 30 years ago.
The problem with Brexit is not the control of the borders, it’s the whole nationalist bullshit that goes with it (and the fact that it’s completely unrealistic). 40 years ago Thatcher was commuting the country to thriving in the single market. And she was as right wing as it comes, and the political mainstream of the day. 30 years ago it was Major.
> Hell, the whole “not letting anyone in just because they claim to be a refugee” aspect was normal in Europe…10 years ago?
No, not really. If you are British, your perspective might be a bit skewed, but there were discussions about refugees waves regularly after the Viêt Nam war or the Armenian genocide, for example, certainly no consensus to deport them to a third world country. The only example of fortified borders in Europe from that era was the iron curtain.
New Labour was in 1997. 30 years ago was 5 years before that. And yes, that time saw the Labour Party shift towards European-style centre-left policies.
Yes, I think my personal Overton window is around 3 years behind. It hasn't caught up with what we're now happy to call 'Far right'.
As far as I can tell, anything remotely right wing is now 'Far right' amongst a growing band of idiotic and insufferable liberal moralisers, so the moniker has effectively lost all meaning.
It's a lost cause us discussing this. I think if you describe how the UK has been governed in the last 10 years as 'far right', you're an idealogue and completely irrational. You're convinced I'm blissfully ignorant with an unintentionally warped political compass, or I'm a crypto right-winger. Oh well.
I agree, discussing this is pointless as we've demonstrated.
Ascribing defintions to yourself that you think I have, or might, call you, in anticipation, is where we're at.
As someone else said. Our current ruling party (or a section of it, considering the internal war going on) are pushing polices that were not out of place (and actually, in terms of the Rwanda nonsense) beyond where the BNP and National Front were 40 years ago, which I think we can agree were 'the far right'.
Again, if you're unwilling to acknowledge this, you've jumped off the logical and historical diving board into a sea of nonsense.
England has been captured by far-right think-tanks, dressed up in nice suits and dresses. There are pockets of resistence within the ruling party, but that doesn't change the last 10 years of madness.
If you are unaware of this, your personal Overton window is all over the place. I'd get that checked out at the local mechanics.