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Lots of "I don't like how it tastes/feels, therefore it must be bad" packaged in a rant, as usual. Essentially only useful information if you are a clone of the author, in all other cases your milage will vary... drastically.

There isn't much of a point in attacking or defending taste in such a way, but neither is trying to objectively score something because it's not the objective score that matters, it's how it feels to the user, and users aren't all identical.



What a useless comment. The post is from someone new to Macs. You have completely failed to grasp the context and got immediately defensive.


Is it? The author self-described the written article as a rant, and here on HN the title presents it as a neutral "impressions from a first-time user". I think you may want to do some introspection before accusing people of failing to grasp contexts.


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> > The post is from someone new to Macs.

> No it’s from someone new to the MacOS GUI. That’s it.

I don't understand how these are meaningfully different. Is your objection that you expected the user to have previously been well-versed with macOS via a Hackintosh?

> This person is new to computers in general and maybe is a longtime windows-user but that’s all they are.

You have, in fact, iterated the opposite cases from being a first-time Mac user: either they are a first time computer user, or they are a long-time computer user, just with a different OS (likely Windows).


Because every one of their complaints is about the GUI and has nothing to do with the Mac Operating System itself. Obviously they haven’t gotten far enough to have any complaints they can actually expound upon other than “I’m not able to arrange windows myself” and “also, I could use an app to do that but won’t!” Most windows users install 7zip or Winrar.

Each point is carefully crafted whiny nonsense. It’s not unclear.

Also, you can use a computer every day, most high school students do, and learn 2 apps: Word processor app Web browser app

And that is the full and total extent of their capabilities. It’s VERY easy to fall into the trap of “wow this OS is bad, because it doesn’t work like the other one!” When that is again, total fucking bullshit. If you skin MacOS to look like windows or vice versa 99% or users will think the GUI is the OS, and so all their complaints are about the current GUI setup.

It is the Automobile equivalent of “I don’t like that I had to adjust my mirrors”.

Who gives a shit?


> everything is unified around that in MacOS by making the apps images and then leaving non-window apps to either daemons or console scripts

I have been using Macs since the late '80s and have no idea what you mean by "making the apps images".

Also, to me, "non-window app" sounds like "menu bar app".

> This person is new to computers in general and maybe is a longtime windows-user

Kinda feel like you have to pick one stereotype there or the other, pardner, but not both.


Not really chief. You can use internet explorer, Word, and browse websites for 10+ years and that makes you a longtime windows user.

Now, tell me, does someone who browses Facebook in IE and learns a lot of windows commands going to understand why another operating system does things differently?

They won’t, because they’re new to computers, and are still, shocker, logically a longtime windows user.

You can be pedantic about my terminology but the logic is sound.


Exactly. Some people like chocolate ice cream and some like vanilla. I never understand the need some people seem to have for these posts. It’s not going to get me to change. I like my Mac for my own reasons, and that’s all that matters.


Right...like if I made a blog post about my experience using Windows when I'm forced to, it'd surely be more than a few paragraphs long. The UI in MacOS isn't perfect but it's a lot better than the state of Windows 10, not even close.


I dunno, I really like being able to set out my most-used apps and cycle between them with Win+n - much quicker than alt tab / cmd tab.

But then that’s not obvious unless you’ve read any of the documentation - so that’s another question, how many people actually read up about their OS features ?


I've always felt like Apple [desktop] tries to make choices based on what's intuitive for the user, presumably through user testing, whereas Windows historically made choices that developers prefer. My impression is Windows has tried to become more user friendly over time, but it has baggage that results in trying to satisfy two influential groups. Maybe this describes a lot of software, but for better or for worse I think Apple makes a more concerted effort at putting users ahead of developer desires, or at least not sacrificing usability in favor of power users.

I have an iPhone now but I prefer Android's flexibility. I really miss the Google Translate button that comes up automatically if I copy some text. On iPhone, to translate some text, I need to copy, open the other app, make sure 'detect language' is selected, and paste. On Android that was two clicks.


> …whereas Windows historically made choices that developers prefer.

And more recently, what marketing wants. Windows is insanely pushy about Edge and Teams, with the latter even being tied to a key shortcut that I keep accidentally hitting.




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