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Interesting. So it's like lots of little ledgers, each channel stays open until N number of transactions between two people complete, then the finally tally is pushed onchain when the channel closes. Am I wrong to thing this sounds a little risky? Like, that channel could be "lost" after the goods/services were exchanged, leaving the seller holding the bag. I don't understand what kind of recourse the seller has to LN if LN screws up? It's kinda like escrow, but escrow agents are heavily regulated whereas is LN "trustworthy"?

EDIT: ah, I think "nicpottier" explains a little more, below. about having an account on LN requires a certain amount of a deposit (like a debit account).



Each update to the channel is a new transaction that references the opening transaction, on each update, this transaction is replaced with a new one, so in practice only the last transaction is kept (old transactions become dangerous to publish)

To know how they update trustlessly you should read my other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27451184

LN eliminates the need of escrow completely by using bitcoin's script (smart contracts) in clever ways and a bit of cryptography


> bitcoin's script (smart contracts

I'm out of the loop, I didn't realize bitcoin had contracts yet. Cool.


The big difference is that bitcoin's scripting language is not turing complete. This is a security and scalability trade off that the bitcoin community isn't willing to compromise on, which drove people like Vitalik (started as a bitcoin dev) away to start Ethereum.

Taproot is also a rad upgrade that is going to improve bitcoin's layer one scripting in some interesting ways, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/taproot-coming-what-it...

I haven't looked into this much, but there are projects like Rootstock, https://www.rsk.co/, that essentially recreate all of Ethereum's functionality as a bitcoin sidechain.


It has always had, it is just much limited than ethereum's.

But you can express things like "if X and Y cooperate they can spend this transaction or Y can spend after 1000 blocks or X can spend if it reveals the preimage of this hash ____"

These logics are what LN uses in its update-transactions




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