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I wonder why they called it a "Temporary youtube-dl repository". Are they still planning to go back to GitHub if things work out?


We can't open issues or PR there, it is a read-only repo.


TBH given the state that the issue tracker on GH used to be in, I would understand if they never opened up the issue tracker to the general public again.

That issue tracker was a great way to lose faith in humanity, just from the sheer number of people who couldn't follow instructions to search for existing issues before opening new ones, or to provide all the answers the issue template asked for.


Sounds like something a bot could be set up to handle...

Duplicate stack trace? Close and link. Missing relevant info? Close.


Open source is bad enough. When open source meets the general public you can enjoy a nice disaster cake.


A neat way to solve this is with a team of bug triag-ers.

Get the developers to never look at a bug unless it has the "triaged' label. Then have trusted volunteers who read each bug, assist the bugreporters to get stack traces and whatever is necessary, dedup, and then finally apply the label.

It's a good task for people who have some technical expertise but aren't yet confident to be submitting their own PR's.


I'd like there to be a platform/plugin part where people host site patches and fixes and the user can integrate what they'd like. A decentralized approach.

It supports dozens of sites btw. That's what I'm specifically referring to.


I could see them hosting their own git instance in a country where DMCA requests are worth jack-shit.


Github MUST get it back. Otherwise this will initiate the potential collapse of their service


>this will initiate the potential collapse of their service

I, for one, heard a few too many times "this was the last straw" for every single privacy breach that happened in the past decade and resulted in no meaningful change for the better, so I find it hard to take this kind of statements seriously anymore. Is there any kind of basis that you'd like to provide for your speculation?


I don't think it's that.

I think it's because it's a stretch of the law and can then abused to block a LOT more.


The law wasn't stretched. From reading the DMCA and the fact that youtude-dl had examples of how to download copyrighted videos it seems that a DMCA was valid.

I still think it is bullshit (and so is DMCA) but that is how the law is written.


How many last straws is reddit up to now?


Why exactly? Gitlab will take down the repo due to DMCA all the same. (Along with any other US ran service, and even many European ones)

If you want to escape US law, feel free to use gitee.com located in China. Or, push your politicians to change the laws.

Microsoft has no way of overcoming the DMCA law themselves, other major companies have continued to lose lawsuits. It doesn't help that mega monopoly entities like Disney want it to stay taht way and will bribe politicians and others.


The DMCA should have no power to take down youtube-dl without a court order. The takedown section only applies to posting copyrighted material without permission, which youtube-dl was clearly not doing.

The ban on circumvention tools allows for a claim in civil court, during which a judge may restrict availability of the program.


>Microsoft has no way of overcoming the DMCA law themselves

...assuming the DMCA request was valid. Some commenters in earlier HN threads were arguing that it wasn't.


It already is for me. I preferred other hosts tbh, but i was using Github mainly because it was a popular resume-oriented host for the projects i'd like to advertise as such.

However given that i work on some P2P services that could be argued scrape and/or distribute, i'm heavily debating moving. A nice host for a potential employer to view is not worth being DMCA'd.

I hope this causes a lot of additional desire to decentralize these portions of the dev workflow stack. Potential solutions exist, but no one cares.. i hope we collectively start caring more, and adopting solutions.


> Otherwise this will initiate the potential collapse of their service

I think you are overestimating the amount of repositories that are affected by DMCA takedown threats (erroneous or legit).


I think they're not referring to number of repos affected. I think they're referring to the stain on GitHub's reputation as a reliable place to host open source projects (controversial or not).




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