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I agree on small orgs, but... recommending startups is a bit iffy, IMO. DGMW, startups can be great, but if you're just a good programmer wanting a stable job, then that startup job is not the job for you.

However, you could be a huge contributor and positive influence in a small org... and it's possible to gain a lot of life satisfaction that way[0]. Plus, your employer actually knows you and understands the value you bring, etc. etc.

Yes, you probably will not earn as much as you could by indirectly peddling ads, tracking users, or whatever, but personal fulfillment matters... at least it does to me... and I hire people who feel the same way.

[0] It sounds weird, but studies have shown that giving people agency (as they must be in a small org), setting their own goals, etc. has a positive influence on their well-being and productivity.



I only disagree with "as they must be in a small org". I only wish that was true, but my experience says otherwise. A small company might give one agency or it might not. Or it can do both over time. With a dozen people in the company you'd think it'd be wise, but the latest management trends and compensation procedures prevent it. In other words, we build what the boss wants and have zero incentive and time to work on anything else. In fact, if there is time, I actively avoid any tasks not delegated by management so as not to appear like I'm working on non sanctioned things. But mostly, the time just expands to fill the work. Or the other way around. There is zero incentive to try to change this or do anything not scheduled as it has been shown it'll not be appreciated but with empty words.


That's a very fair point. I can only speak from my own experience on this.

It's a great observation that authoritarian tendencies can probably arise in any size of organization.

(I would advise getting out -- if you can, financially, etc. -- if you do not have self-determination. It's incredibly soul-destroying in the long term. Best of luck.)


I'm principal-ish engineer level, and, after being tempted to go to a FAANG, but turned off by the hazing rituals (and other behavior of some of them), I ended up choosing a startup a few months ago.

Even in best case I can imagine for eventual equity liquidation for the startup, the startup pays only about 1/3 what Google would, and the stress is high at times-- but I've already made crucial contributions to the company's success, my coworkers didn't try to haze me or play other arrogant power games during the recruiting process, and there's a genuine sense of don't-be-evil.


As the GP says : > The archetypal software engineer is socially disengaged, anti-structure, and highly idealistic.

This kind of person would probably refuse a FAANG / GAFAM job, even if asked for it!




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