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Hmm, when can parents consent on behalf of children? Can children retract the consent given for them by their parents?


This is a big issue these days.

Parents should be able to consent on behalf of their children and retraction should come from parents as well.

This used to be considered common sense but not anymore.


> This used to be considered common sense but not anymore.

Good! Some progress at least.


Children cannot reasonably consent to most things concerning them.

Ignoring reality for the sake of ideology isn't progress.

By that logic, next a doctor will refuse to vaccinate an 8 year old because the child refused to give consent.


My babies usually refused to give consent for changing nappies...


No, you misunderstand what the logic here is. Parents should be able to consent to some things in the name of their children and absolutely should not be able to do it for other things (even those things their children would be able to consent to were they grown ups, so I don't mean illegal things).

Exactly what stuff the parents can consent to is the real question and should be argued properly and not treated as any kind of "common sense". Things that are necessary for the safety of the children - like vaccines - yes. Other things are on much more shaky grounds.


I perfectly understand the logic. Data processing is ubiquitous these days and control and consent falls well within what parents are there for. That is common sense: parents are there to make decisions on behalf of their children on issues children cannot handle.


> That is common sense.

Well (as you said - and thankfully) not any more.


The law will hopefully be changed because it isn't neither workable nor sensible if parents cannot consent on behalf of their children.


This is not a perfect answer either. There are many situations where a parent is at odds with their children as to what is appropriate. In some cases, the parents should "win", but in some cases, the child should "win".


Obviously a child is not able to decide what is appropriate on this issue. This isn't about choosing an ice cream flavour.


There’s little evidence to suggest adults are capable of deciding what is appropriate in this issue either.


Recently I traveled through UK airport security with minors and was surprised that the staff did not seek approval from a legal guardian for a body search (pat-down) of a minor.

I try to refer questions of consent to my kids, but in this case the question wasn't asked, they just said "hold your hands out" and went ahead.

I don't think minors can retract parental consent, but IMO schools should accommodate an individual's personal consent if practicable. Indeed schools should where possible be advocating for pupils before their parents if necessary (things like a tutor contacting a parent to request consent on a child's behalf).

Aside: I heard security staff make an exchange suggesting they'd chosen a particular person to search "because you like doing the $ageGroupIdentifier", which might have been innocent but came across as wholly wrong.


Really hope your quote at the end there was just some twisted humour. That's disturbing.


Maybe I'll report it, it was pretty close to verbatim.




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