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no one is saying you can't say things, they are just saying you can't say things in certain places. there have ALWAYS been regulations, both legal and market, on what you can say on tv, radio, in newspapers. 50 years ago you could write your pro-nazi holocaust denying op ed but it isnt a violation of free speech when the new york times refused to publish it.

now we have large mainstream internet communities like reddit that also put justifiable limits on what can be said. no one is saying you cant start a racist irc channel or bbs board, they are saying that horrible things shouldn't be said on a massive platform that millions of people see



> 50 years ago you could write your pro-nazi holocaust denying op ed but it isnt a violation of free speech when the new york times refused to publish it.

The New York times also never publicly advertised themselves as a "Free Speech Platform" that was "open to all persons and views"

>they are saying that horrible things shouldn't be said on a massive platform that millions of people see

Well one, it is clear you yourself are not a supporter of Freedom of Speech.

Two, so do you believe that a massive platform with millions of people should be forced to sensor speech you find to be "horrible"

One of the things I always question when people start classify speech as "horrible" is who subjective it is. For example I think it is "horrible" that the christian region is given prominent placement in society. I believe the views of the Christian Region to be "horrible" and I consider indoctrinating children into said religion to be abuse. Would you support a massive platform banning all references to Christianity? And if they did would support them calling themselves "Supporters of Free Speech" while doing so?

//and before the Christians get all butt hurt, I oppose any and all organized religions, I think they are all bullshit. Christianity however is the most popular religion in America so I use it to highlight my point


if you think that calling racism or nazism horrible is "subjective" then you clearly have no solid principles and this conversation is over

i think you're wrong about christianity, and we can debate whether or not advocacy of it should be allowed on a public platform. i think comparing it to nazism, targeted harassment, child porn/revenge porn, and hate speech (really the only things banned on reddit for example) is delusional


You're forgetting that politics are inherently subjective.

There is no way for you to make up a rule about what should be banned besides "I don't agree with it".


i don't think it's subjective to say that nazism is reprehensible.




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