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I just don't get the resistance to Tahoe, and I speak as a macOS power user through a couple decades.

Been on Tahoe now for a few weeks. The new rounded corners bug me a bit, but aside from that it's been rock stable. The trick with macOS is of course not to immediately upgrade. Give it a few weeks before you go to a new release.

I've been through all the releases since Jaguar in 2003. There's been some ups and downs, and a lot of complaints, but I'd say it still remains the most rock solid UNIX™ desktop OS out there.


> but I'd say it still remains the most rock solid UNIX™ desktop OS out there

That doesn't mean that they aren't still constantly making it worse.

Apple themselves note that most of the new features in the OS are "design" and "apple intelligence". I really don't care for these features, so I don't really care to upgrade. Even on the Tahoe page, they note many of the features as updates to individual apps themselves, so why can't they just release those as individual app updates?

I'd rather have a solid OS with a UI that isn't re-imagined every other year with more focus on usability improvements and bug fixes. And as you note, it is one of the most solid UNIX™ desktop OS'.

So when Apple puts out a major update that I think is going in the wrong direction, how else should I signal my distaste? I sent feedback. I posted on their customer forums (which are a terrible place for discussion btw). Now I just want to not update, but they use dark patterns to try to force it on me. So I'm going to be more annoying and vocal about it because I think they can and should do better.


I'm not a huge fan of Tahoe's aesthetics, but the response has been near hysterical. It's fine. Apple has done much worse (iOS 7 - present).

I wish some of the anger being directed at rounded corners would be redirected at the rapidly accumulating list of long-standing bugs in macOS instead.


Seems to only have a tiny amount of ships compared to marinetraffic.com ?

Seems regionally biased. This map makes it look like the Americas barely see any ship traffic, while the South China Sea is paved with ships from shore to shore.

The way I understand marinetraffic works is by having AIS receivers near shores and sending any received contacts to an API. If this works the same way then there's probably a lot fewer receivers so far.

Been on Tahoe now for a few weeks. The new rounded corners bug me a bit, but aside from that it's been rock stable. The trick with macOS is of course not to immediately upgrade. Give it a few weeks before you go to a new release.

I've been through all the releases since Jaguar in 2003. There's been some ups and downs, and a lot of complaints, but I'd say it still remains the most rock solid UNIX desktop OS out there.


Fascinating

To those who stayed behind... won't you feel like you're potentially going to be next? With such a massive cut, I'd start making plans.

How about performance?


You didn't understand the query

How does yours compare to regexp on performance across many inputs?

Regexp is incredibly fast, I doubt yours comes anywhere close

and then there's the kicker, Ai are really good at crafting regexp, better than writing code to replace it, that's for sure

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looks like the comment I am replying to has changed the link, it was this one: https://matchlang.com/docs/api/performance

Note to OP, use standard regexp benchmarks


elaborate?

Look at a fast regex library [1] and take a subset of those tests or benchmarks and apply to match.

[1] https://github.com/intel/hyperscan/tree/master

That could be a fun comparison. As someone mentioned, regular expressions are extremely fast, and have been benchmarked forever.


Well, you could join Palantir and fight terrorism: https://www.palantir.com/careers/

Well, you could join Palantir and f̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶t̶e̶r̶r̶o̶r̶i̶s̶m̶ help develop Israel's terrorism in Gaza.

There are quite a of these out already, none with this level of AI generated web slop though. If it's a good product, I guess I'll never find out.

I mean... I've been a Facebook user since 2006 and I don't see much spam at all in my feed. So I guess like PaulHoule said, it's a cold start problem and the defaults are terrible.

559 vs 720? That's literally like a few coffees. I went to Amsterdam (assuming you're dutch) and I paid 5 euro for a coffee.

Go for the Mac Mini, the hardware incl thermal is also built exceptionally well. That's why you still have 20 year old Mac Minis still running as home servers etc.


If you're spending 170 euros on coffee then you're either abnormally rich or abnormally bad with money for a Dutchman.

Without the ability to upgrade either storage or RAM, a 256GB SSD with 16GB RAM is quite useless for a home server. Minisforum doesn't offer any options with that little RAM and storage it seems (you can pick between barebones and 1TB models).

The bare minimum spec for the Mac Mini sits at an interesting price point, but if you use it for any more than the bare minimum it'll be pretty restrictive with how memory-hungry macOS has become. No Linux support to speak of also makes for a rather mediocre home server experience.

One interesting part I found out of Apple's European pricing is that after currency conversion and subtracting VAT, the European price is still equivalent to $700, which is $100 more than they charge within the US. Looks like a 1/6th price increase is all you need for consumer rights!


I spend about ZAR 1200 (or 60 EUR per month) on coffee at home but who knows with all my cappuccinos. It's not really cheaper here in South Africa. But thanks, you made me look at my own coffee consumption now and it's always good to know!

Indeed macOS is a bit memory hungry but... unified memory, the sheer speed those chips can move data around is ridiculous. And macOS is a proper workstation Unix.

You're right - it's not ideal for headless. But there are ways. Still less painful than running Windows as as server.


> a 256GB SSD with 16GB RAM is quite useless for a home server

Not that I would buy it new, no, but 16GB for a home server can be quite fine. If I didn't have the 2x3 TB NAS disks (sounds ridiculously small now, right) - that would actually be enough.


my i5 7500t, 8gb ram 24/7 1l 'server' disagrees.

my atom, 4gb,1tb hdd bare metal ovh server also disagrees.


> 559 vs 720? That's literally like a few coffees. I went to Amsterdam (assuming you're dutch) and I paid 5 euro for a coffee.

When someone says he drank a few coffees, I would never have guessed it was 32.


I feel like the "that's just a few coffees" metric is getting out of hand. By this metric, my current work laptop, purchased used from a local used reseller, was "a few coffees".

Also, I'm surprised how often on here I see people argue about price differences that are literally as I spend on entire computers.


> That's why you still have 20 year old Mac Minis still running as home servers etc.

I often see statements like this made as if it's an exceptional characteristic of Macs. I've found that almost all computer hardware I buy has made it 20 years, though. Sure, a hard drive or something dies every once in a while, but most stuff gets retired because I just don't care to use it anymore, not because it doesn't work.


Exactly. Of all my hardware since 2003, which includes 5+ different GPUs that were mining and later training AI models almost non-stop the only things that stopped working and not just discarded for being too old/slow are 2 OCZ 2 SSDs which my guess would be had a bug in their firmware that caused a lockup.

And ironically, a special part failing and there being no replacement parts is more likely to happen on one of these NUCloids than a Mac mini.

So over the span of 20 years they’ll pay a multitude on these crappy computers than what the Mac mini costs once. May as well get a specced out Mac.


Isn't Apple also famous for not offering replacement parts other than replacing the whole thing and charging you accordingly?

In some cases yes, but having used Macs for decades and also working in companies with Macs for all the developers one thing is clear; these things don't easily break. Built extremely well.

(One exception being the GPU issues a few years back though on Intel MBP's)


Can you provide any more objective support outside of your obvious Apple fan vibes?

Other than that whole butterfly keyboard on their laptops for several years, culimnating in a $50 million class-action lawsuit for laptops between 2015 and 2019, totally!

No, wait, there was also bend gate and the iphone battery thing as well.

Uhhhh something about airpod ANC crackling.

There's more I'm forgetting.

God why do I keep buying Apple shit. I'm in a toxic relationship with an abuser.


But you can't run most Linux distros on Mac hardware without doing hacks

Depends on what you need it for. Love Mac minis but feature by feature the MS-R1 has more memory, ECC support and dual 10Gbe.

Agreed. I can definitely see the Minisforum being far more cost efficient if you're mostly doing high speed networking transfers, while the Mac is more cost efficient if you need more raw power.

The ECC is cool. I don't need that for homelab servers though. But it's good to know and Minisforum is certainly a great offering.

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