Right on that's awesome! I think I'm doing more what you did vs. the other way around. Looks like you're pretty established. How long did it take to build your YouTube to what it is? What's that process been like?
It's exactly as you say: software as a tool for everyone and it's hard for programmers like me to accept that because I've spent so much time, read so many books, and work so hard perfecting my craft.
But smart programmers will realize the world doesn't care about any of that at all.
You’re ignoring Jevons paradox. Everyone, both people and companies, will be making exponentially more software with these tools. Software that both needs to get created, debugged and updated to realize the intention of it. That’s what our time will be spent on as programmers.
At the same time ability to write software is exploding we are watching large entities in the market consolidated and small businesses end up on the down side of the K shaped economy. Programmers demand and pay should go down as supply increases just like every other person in an economy.
Exactly! There isn't enough woodworking jobs for thousands of thousands of workers. Of course you have people handcrafting things and people demanding handcrafted things. Programming will be the same.
This doesn’t seem right to me. Carpentry still seems like a pretty solid line of work with a lot of jobs. I know at least one guy who moved from EE work to contracting because he could make a lot more money that way.
Given, a lot of it is framing houses and remodeling. And there are fewer jobs in hardwood furniture these days. But a lot of that is because US furniture manufacturing was moved to China 20 years ago, not because of power tools.
If anything, the advent of power tools in the 40s/50s made single family homes more affordable and increased construction demand.
Well it's a new project so give it some time. I feel confident that I'm not lying so I can make that claim.
Also its target market is not a technical crowd but people who make music. I'm optimizing more for what they want to see (which are sound demos) rather than what a programmer would want to see.
No you're absolutely right. One of the things I'm starting to see and I wrote another Hacker News post about this is that more people are starting to come out talking about all the mistakes AI is making even as it gets better. Then You've got people like Karpathy talking about how drastic the landscape is shifting
I've been doing this for 25 years and I can tell you that the AI is a better coder than me, but I know how to use it. I reviewed the code that it puts out and it's better. I'm assuming the developers that are having a hard time with it are just not as experienced with it.
If you think your job is going to stay programmer, I just don't see it. I think you need to start providing value and using coding as just a means to do that, more so than coding being valuable in itself. It's just not as valuable anymore.
I had the hardware for both units and use them extensively so 100% familiar with how they sound.
And I'm not doing it based off of my ears. I know the algorithm, have the exact coefficients, and there was no guesswork except for the potentiometer curves and parts of the room algorithm that I'm still working out, which is a completely separate component of the reverb.
But when I put it up for sale, I'll make sure to go into detail about all that so people who buy it know what they're getting.
Why would I? When you buy a car part, they don't print on the box they used AutoCAD in order to build it. When you rent a movie they don't talk about using DaVinci Resolve to edit it, right? People use AI now to build software. I don't think that's going to change any time soon.
I find it really funny that so many people who vibecode software do their best to cover the AI tracks, especially when it's open-source. I think it's because you all know how negative the public sentiment about AI is, and the sentiment continues to build.
Here you are talking not just about how you've used it, but also how you're planning to sell this as a plugin to musicians – who, as a group, are overwhelmingly averse to AI. Because if they weren't averse to AI, they'd just be using Suno.
I was watching a video where Sean Costello the creator of Valhalla Reverbs was talking about the original Schroeder algorithm design for the first digital reverberator. Schroeder had to schedule time on an IBM time-sharing system days in advance. Then he'd have to write out the code in machine language. Then he had to drive 30 minutes to where the only DAC he had access to was in order to test out his algorithm. Repeat. We don't do that shit anymore.
How is this different?
I don't try to hide my AI tracks. I'll gladly tell anybody that AI helped me do it because it did such a fantastic job. I mean, that's literally what this post is about!
My plug-in sounds way better than the UM-282 which was hand-coded before AI was getting popular. That's all that matters!
Honestly I think you should re-examine your own position. I see you've written plugin software in the past and I'm sure you spent a long time on DSP algorithms and learning and understanding.
Well I did the same thing with web-based software for the last 25 years. The world doesn't give two shits man. The world is going to do what the world is going to do.
What Schroeder was doing wasn't fundamentally built on plagiarism and copyright laundering. The externalities of commercial LLMs are pretty well-documented at this point.
> I'll gladly tell anybody that AI helped me do it because it did such a fantastic job.
And yet you got defensive when I asked you about it. I stand by what I said – you're worried about how it reflects on you and your product. Justifiably so, considering the audience you're going to be selling to.
> That's all that matters!
If that's what you need to believe, I guess? Again – you want to sell vibecoded software to people who themselves are threatened by AI and you're hoping they won't notice or won't care.
> Honestly I think you should re-examine your own position. I see you've written plugin software in the past and I'm sure you spent a long time on DSP algorithms and learning and understanding.
I've spent plenty of time examining my own position and I have come to the conclusion that, no matter how good vibecoding is, it's fundamentally immoral and I judge its practitioners harshly.
> The world doesn't give two shits man. The world is going to do what the world is going to do.
And you're just along for the ride? Have a backbone, at least.
I created the UI and the internal circuits but it's a hundred percent DSP. The SST206 is a recreation of the SST282 (in DSP) and he expanded the bandwidth from 7 kHz to 22 kHz, so it doesn't produce distortion but it can get dark like the original. But yeah so the SST206 it's not grungy like the original so it lacks some of the character. It makes up for it in delay time.
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