God this would be ironic. Everybody that's protesting would go absolutely bonkers if next month the government ordered adults to get MMR.

We’re not really at a point in our society where blanket enforcement of vaccination by the government is likely to go over well. I have a hard time believing the current administration—or any administration in the foreseeable future—would be daring enough to attempt that. And even if they did, I’m sure it would be tied up in the courts for years.

Why would the government need to order that?

Yeah it seems like there is a straightforward free market solution: you don't get a vaccine, businesses may not allow you on their property or in their stores.

That’s unlikely to happen. Businesses generally have no means of verifying whether you’ve been vaccinated, and any attempt by the government to implement or enforce such a system would inevitably be contested and tied up in courts.

It would be easy to issue certificates to people who have been vaccinated. Businesses already have guidelines for who can enter their premises, like wearing shirts in restaurants in spite of not wearing a shirt being legal.

IANAL, but there’s no way that isn’t going to be contested. That’s not to say it can’t happen, but I have a hard time believing it could happen within a relevant timeframe.

The shirt and shoes rule is a health concern, much like what you’re describing here. Unlike vaccination certificates, though, it’s been around a lot longer and isn’t going to result in a heated political battle anytime soon.

>It's still bizarre how much they make off of a unit considering how little they provide. Their insurance never pays out - their website and app are embarrassingly bad.

Then stop using them. There are plenty of other options.

What do you have in your food forest so far? When my dad lived with us he always kept a veggie garden, I'm thinking of trying to bring something like that back.

I have a handful of apples and peaches bearing fruit. Yeilded 50 peaches and about 5 apples. The trees are 8 years old now, planted when they were 4.

Also hundreds of raspberry canes and strawberry plants. About 7 grape vines at year 5.

Top setting onions (walking onions). Parsnip, leaks, potatoes, lettuce, raddish, and snow peas.

Have some Wineberry and autumn olives that pioneeres on my land.

I'm hoping my 8 year old plum trees and 5 year old pawpaws bare fruit.

I'm my living room I have about 250 tomato plants, 50 eggplants, few hundred hot peppers.

My partner works in the make-up and skin care industry. She thinks the majority of men simply don't care about their skin, because wrinkles and Crow's feet are sexy on men (her words). I wish you the best of luck.

Definitely a smart plan. I've got six months of expenses in my emergency fund earning peanuts but my mind is much more at ease because of it. Worth it.

Same. It has long been a dinner topic, since my wife has wanted to invest the cash and I have been pushing to actually save more cash.

Now suddenly the statement showing our savings and CDs is my spouse's favorite part of our portfolio.

Index funds that should probanly recover given a sufficient tine don't cover emergency expenses tomorrow!

I found SMART recovery, which is very welcome to atheists and based on CBT. That group helped me quite a bit in my recovery.

That's what I did, too. It helped me more than AA.

There are plenty of atheists in AA -- and they are welcomed.