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Mozilla Foundation places two-page advocacy ad in The New York Times https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2004/12/mozilla-foundation-pl...

New York Times runs Firefox ad https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/new-york-tim...

> The first page of the two-page ad--which is twice as large as originally planned--features the Firefox symbol superimposed over the names of the 10,000 donors

My name is somewhere in that mix. I lost the physical newspaper copy at some point in the last 19 years. but it's cool the PDF is still around.

Surprised the getfirefox.com domain from the ad still works!

In the Battle of the Browsers '04, Firefox Aims at Microsoft https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/15/technology/in-the-battle-...

> the early enthusiasm for the preview version of Firefox is a big reason that Internet Explorer's market share has slipped more than 2.5 percentage points in the last five months, to 92.9 percent at the end of October, its first decline since 1999


You mentioned getfirefox.com and while that was and is the official site, I remember a time (maybe?) when that was registered to a third-party fan of Firefox to promote it who handed it over to Mozilla. That said… I cannot find any evidence to back up this claim after a small bit of Google searching, so I might be wrong. I definitely remember a time after the rebranding was announced but before the full 1.0 launch where the moz website didn’t have an easy or obvious landing page for Firefox because so much website energy was still reserved for the open sourced Mozilla communications suite ;-) It always felt a bit new and edgy to recommend Firefox (Phoenix? Firebird?) back in the old days. Weirdly, there was a time when it was new and edgy to recommend Chrome too. Now it’s probably new and edgy to recommend… ad-blocking? Edge Read Aloud? It was easier when IE provided a common enemy and when Chrome wasn’t the only choice for low performance Android devices, or Safari on iOS.

Re third party sites, it’s likely getfirefox was actually always Mozilla’s (they would have known about the name first, of course) so maybe I’m thinking of “getfirebird.com” or something else like that. It’s even possible that I just assumed it was third-party because it redirected to the main Mozilla site for the longest time. And it really probably doesn’t matter anyway, just a digression. :)


If I recall correctly, getfirefox.com was the de-facto site because an individual blogger had owned and been using firefox.com. Mozilla was finally able to acquire the firefox.com domain and for a time, offered a free redirect to the original blog. I also tried to find a link to corroborate the history but was unable to do so, just the WHOIS data below. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

WHOIS data for firefox.com says it was created in October 1998, four years before the Firefox project was started in 2002, and six years before the 1.0 release in 2004.

WHOIS data for getfirefox.com says it was created in April 2004, seven months before the 1.0 release.


You might be right. I remember a domain handover, but maybe it was firefox.com rather than getfirefox.com … I vaguely recall the opposite though, that somebody ended up redirecting to the Mozilla site pre-acquisition as a way of promoting Firefox. I vaguely recall knowing that the ownsership transfer took place because suddenly the URL that the domain redirected you to had some extra tracking query parameters added to it.

The earliest version of getfirefox.com redirects to Mozilla’s Firefox homepage which while it sells the browser does not have a clear Download link. I remember one of the earliest fan-made Firefox sites having a prominent download link as a way of helping people install the browser and switch to Firefox before there was a switch campaign site. https://web.archive.org/web/20040619171818/http://mozilla.or...

At the time the download page looked something like this: https://web.archive.org/web/20040619111818/http://www.mozill... and it was easier to download the old Communicator suite still.

The Firefox.com site obviously gained in popularity in 2004 as Firefox started gaining traction, based on how often The Wayback Machine was crawling it… https://web.archive.org/web/20040601000000*/Firefox.com

The site was transferred by mid-September of 2004: https://web.archive.org/web/20040914022408/http://www.firefo... and later that month a note was added about a different Firefox company: https://web.archive.org/web/20040922075506/http://www.firefo...

I should add, I think the tracking codes I’m remembering were part of https://wiki.mozilla.org/Spreadfirefox_affiliates


The blurb at the bottom! That was it! (I'm weirdly excited by this. :D)

> Thanks for the Domain Name, Kevin!

https://web.archive.org/web/20030805180640/http://www.firefo...

It's a shame that all of the other domains are offline now.


Wait… based on my previous lookups, I think it was SpreadFirefox.com or something related to that. https://web.archive.org/web/20040929012122/http://www.spread... I think the idea started as a quick webpage to download Firefox and turned into a Mozilla site to promote the browser…? It sounds right though I’ve forgotten some of the details. I definitely remember linking to some site off spreadfirefox.com because it was easier to find the download link there than to find it at the official site…


> I remember a time (maybe?) when that was registered to a third-party fan of Firefox to promote it who handed it over to Mozilla.

I remember this too. Could have been a rumor but I definitely thought about this when I saw the domain.


I bought and owned getfoxfire.com earlier on and had it redirect to getfirefox.com because so many people would mix it up.


Thank you for doing that :) Yeah, I’m pretty sure I typed it that way more than once. Especially if all you remembered was “FF”.


> Surprised the getfirefox.com domain from the ad still works!

This domain is still in my muscle-memory from the Windows days. Just used it yesterday for my wifes laptop reinstall, and I was surprised too it still works.


I remember my friend’s IE somehow getting corrupted/screwed up and I was still able to go to windows shell and ?tftp? to ftp://ftp.mozilla.org

Looks like the http equivalent is still up with all releases since 0.1! (Not sure what happened between 0.2 and 0.7)

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/


Mozilla's FTP was a lifesaver when i was configuring/updating old, barely functioning Windows desktops. Glad to see them keeping it alive.


> You’re not your own boss, you’ve got about 30 different bosses

As a freelancer, you get to choose those bosses. Much harder to do at a regular job.

> If you’re not on twitter, it reflects poorly on you. The design community is strongly linked to the start-up and web-dev communities.

Minor nitpick: Our design community is strongly linked to the start-up and web-dev community. But other design communities exist outside of the software world :)

Good information in the article. Shared it with friends who are getting started with freelancing. I'm sure they're in a better position now than me, when I was starting out.


> The relationships we made while running 9rules are priceless. Almost every good thing that's happened to my career since 2005 I can attribute directly to 9rules or recognition that 9rules brought me.

This goes for me, too. As a former member, I'm grateful for the work you guys put in to build the site and especially the community. I met a lot of awesome people.

Thanks for writing this breakdown. It was an interesting read. I was always curious about what happened when you guys went your separate ways.


I echo these sentiments as well. I made some great friends through 9rules and it was Scrivens that was the first to call me "Stammy" :)


Thanks! It was nice remembering the glory days.


* Evaded a "real job" for another year

* Redesigned the admin interface for Tender (http://tenderapp.com)

* Worked with some amazingly talented people at ENTP, makers of Tender and Lighthouse (http://lighthouseapp.com)

* Moved to downtown Portland. First time in my life I've been able to walk to an office. It's a GREAT feeling.

* Refined the design of my work blog (http://neatfocus.com/blood) and food blog (http://cutandtaste.com)

* Spent too much time on Hacker News, Quora, Dribbble and Forrst


Nice work on that UI, simple, elegant and functional.


http://lighthouseapp.com — Bug tracking app created by 2 people. Used by businesses big and small, as well as some popular open-source projects (like Ruby on Rails)

http://tenderapp.com — Customer support app created by 2 people (out of necessity when Lighthouse started getting big).

Both apps are by ENTP. We have 2 programmers & 3 designers now and are working on redesigns for both Lighthouse & Tender. We actually just released a sneak peak yesterday: http://hoth.entp.com/2010/10/5/sneak-peek-tender-admin-2-0


Oh boy, I love Lighthouse (worked for Bluenotion over the summer). Pure joy to use!


Thank you!


Working on a design refresh for Tender's (http://tenderapp.com) admin/supporter area. Got some snapshots on Dribbble (http://dribbble.com/players/chris) and a blog post with design decisions in the works.


Thanks! We're getting a bunch of signups right now.

If anyone has questions about Tender, feel free to comment here, tweet @tenderapp, or email support@tenderapp.com — Will's girlfriend is in town visiting, so let's keep him as busy as possible!


The pricing is just right too.



I've been looking for work tables just like those in your office. Where did you find them? Or if you made them, can you give quick rundown of the materials used?


http://img.skitch.com/20091104-qx7f3diea647pm9bfyxri1fuhg.pn... might give some context to the desks here at ENTP.


Which office (Home or ENTP)?


I'm interested in the home office desks.


Desk with monitors: http://www.offi.com/products/tablesanddesks/D23060.php?p2c=2...

Black desk with laptop: http://www.dwr.com/product/workspace/sale/dordoni-worktop-ta...

The ENTP desks are definitely homemade: Building your own desk used to be your initiation.


http://hoth.entp.com/2010/3/23/we-re-hiring-2 (Portland, Oregon)

Good timing. ENTP (Lighthouse bug tracker + Tender support) posted some Ruby on Rails job listings last night. We're a small team of 10 employees, located in downtown Portland.


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